The person who left the comment on your last video - her discussion of her theory of the toroidal cosmos with the 'dreamcatcher" model of the "big bang" black holes emanating into crystalline light is quite a wonderful accompaniment to your post. Thanks Kelfin.
hmmm, dunno what's going on with comments on these platforms - I left a few on your last video, but they don't seem to be there, but even on my own youtube videos, where it says there are comments, it's not showing then {to me}
and so I've no idea of - "discussion of her theory of the toroidal cosmos with the 'dreamcatcher" model of the "big bang" black holes emanating into crystalline light is quite a wonderful accompaniment to your post."
I can't see that comment anywhere, and there's no notification for it either
bit of a pity, cos I've been striving to make comments/interactions with you, in respect of the things you are discussing on your video lately - though i find it hard to push my self to both make the time, and to concentrate from such an amount of ideas to communicate
perhaps, we should/can communicate more directly by email ... and/or, I'm up for having some face to face video-chats if you'd like.
I feel that what I think, is so far-out there, cosmicly and from my life's experiences, that it's easily dis-counted or simply negated by the narrow-paths of most peoples reality-tunnels, and so, in this way, I can find it difficult to maintain consistency of effort in explaining, what for me, is outside of the Cave-tunnel analogies
It's coming together Kelfin. I see you and hear you. Please shoot me an email to timpsila@protonmail.com. I'll try to post a link to the video I meant below.
She has two videos that seem relevant and aligned with what you and Joseph have been unpacking. I am very intrigued by much of what Joscha Bach says, though Bach, unless I am misunderstanding him, seems to hold that it is all in the brain and what Joseph is saying is that primal consciousness is at the core. Joseph's thinking that fits with her model and your poetry above is that it is non-dual and recursive resonant light of which we are a part, cyclically. She has one video and then a second follow up both using the same dream catcher model.
I don't know, but my impression is that she is very grounded with good energy and had personally seen / experienced in mystic states this structure. I do believe people have the ability to do that even though at the moment I don't have that gift.
This video is a good example of how difficult it is, for me, to translate the figurative poetic insights into literal, linear, sequencial writings.
but I'm getting there, in some form.
My views, are grounded in my imagination.
I happen to have images in mind, which are like memories, of the birth of consciousness.
The first poem in the faerietale that I wrote, describes the birth of Light from Creatrix - and this idea flies in the face of all the Religions which see "God-Light" as Prime Creator, which, for me is as silly as Thinking that numbers begin with 1, negating and ignoring 0, as if No-Thing has no consciousness or meaning, no Agency, and no imaginition.
For me, the realm of Spirits is all very real, conceptually - I find it hard to imagine how people generally, can't "see" the invisible, and act as if the invisible is not present, denying the very idea of souls, even though these same people may "believe" in souls.
Joscha Bach, far from seeing consciousness, and all, as being in the brain, sees things very clearly, in terms of philosophy, that this physical world is simulated in the brain - sub he sees there being "spirits" {as in animism, from before the enlightenment-model of the world focused entirely on the physics} which hold the intelligence which implements {makes real, embodies} the forms - of flowers, plants, animals, humans, landscapes, mountains, and minerals etc
These "spirits", we can now describe, more accurately, as doing what software does, holding the blue-print which enacts what the code invokes.
you gotta get your head around this guy !
I know of no other who is like him, for his ability to explain his own unique view of things, from such a multitude of disaplines that he has studied.
I only came across a video of him back in early december '24, in a rather nice interview - but he also has videos where he straight-forward presents his own mind-model of the attempts of science to make sense of "life", where he is true to the initial ideas and expectations of what computer's would be able to do, given time, that he had as a child.
He's a wealth of unexpected unique-views, on such a wide range of previous dogmas - for example, there a couple of interviews, where he's asked to explain his idea of what the 7 days of creation Story is actually about - which apart from my own re-imaginings of that, what he describes is such a blast of fresh air, into those most-stuck-shut libraries of Big-Bang Bull manure ... ;)
I'd like to give links, timestamped to the specific bits that would convey the core insights, but, I've been listening to a lot of him, alongside Michael Levin, whom I also hadn't heard of til early December, as well as making sense of my own revelations, and the kinds of algorithmic reflections that my screen keeps suggesting -
Bach explains how we project this "reality tunnel", individually, acting "as if" we were "real" individual persons, self-identified, perceiving ourselves as being perceiving - and he explains it better than I can, though within the relatively narrow scope of science, through his knowledges of computation, biology and physics, as well as how his personality processes information in a quite unique manner and grammer.
I've been listening to this, today - I've copied the link at a good point in the video, that skips some chat, but gives a good introduction to his ability to communicate, with such patience, with people who are somewhat stuck in anti-tech, and psycho-spiritual-magical thinking
This video is a good example of how difficult it is, for me, to translate the figurative poetic insights into literal, linear, sequencial writings.
but I'm getting there, in some form.
My views, are grounded in my imagination.
I happen to have images in mind, which are like memories, of the birth of consciousness.
The first poem in the faerietale that I wrote, describes the birth of Light from Creatrix - and this idea flies in the face of all the Religions which see "God-Light" as Prime Creator, which, for me is as silly as Thinking that numbers begin with 1, negating and ignoring 0, as if No-Thing has no consciousness or meaning, no Agency, and no imaginition.
For me, the realm of Spirits is all very real, conceptually - I find it hard to imagine how people generally, can't "see" the invisible, and act as if the invisible is not present, denying the very idea of souls, even though these same people may "believe" in souls.
Joscha Bach, far from seeing consciousness, and all, as being in the brain, sees things very clearly, in terms of philosophy, that this physical world is simulated in the brain - sub he sees there being "spirits" {as in animism, from before the enlightenment-model of the world focused entirely on the physics} which hold the intelligence which implements {makes real, embodies} the forms - of flowers, plants, animals, humans, landscapes, mountains, and minerals etc
These "spirits", we can now describe, more accurately, as doing what software does, holding the blue-print which enacts what the code invokes.
you gotta get your head around this guy !
I know of no other who is like him, for his ability to explain his own unique view of things, from such a multitude of disaplines that he has studied.
I only came across a video of him back in early december '24, in a rather nice interview - but he also has videos where he straight-forward presents his own mind-model of the attempts of science to make sense of "life", where he is true to the initial ideas and expectations of what computer's would be able to do, given time, that he had as a child.
He's a wealth of unexpected unique-views, on such a wide range of previous dogmas - for example, there a couple of interviews, where he's asked to explain his idea of what the 7 days of creation Story is actually about - which apart from my own re-imaginings of that, what he describes is such a blast of fresh air, into those most-stuck-shut libraries of Big-Bang Bull manure ... ;)
I'd like to give links, timestamped to the specific bits that would convey the core insights, but, I've been listening to a lot of him, alongside Michael Levin, whom I also hadn't heard of til early December, as well as making sense of my own revelations, and the kinds of algorithmic reflections that my screen keeps suggesting -
Bach explains how we project this "reality tunnel", individually, acting "as if" we were "real" individual persons, self-identified, perceiving ourselves as being perceiving - and he explains it better than I can, though within the relatively narrow scope of science, through his knowledges of computation, biology and physics, as well as how his personality processes information in a quite unique manner and grammer.
I've been listening to this, today - I've copied the link at a good point in the video, that skips some chat, but gives a good introduction to his ability to communicate, with such patience, with people who are somewhat stuck in anti-tech, and psycho-spiritual-magical thinking
I have been listening to Bach for some time. I agree with a lot of what he says, but if you listen closely to how he answers the first question in the talk you posted which was clearly asking if he felt that "consciousness emerges out of the material" or if it exists outside of the material (which is Joseph's theory regarding primal consciousness) - he doesn't really answer it, he just directs his comments back to the brain and the story. Again, I get that part, and I have talked quite a bit lately about stories and reality tunnels. As I understand it in the quantum, the role of the outside observer is key to wave collapse. Joseph posits that the ultimate outside observer is consciousness itself and that it is dynamic and recursive and pulses with feedback from all of us existing in this 3D version, which is so elegantly outlined by the Welsh woman in her dream catcher. Have a listen. I find it interesting that he dodges the question though in a charming way. https://youtu.be/WiZjWadqSUo?t=2923
My other two cents is that while I appreciate the dives you do into the verbal spoken and written language aspect of reality crafting, I also feel very strongly that there are other forms of communication within the body that have their own languages that interface with the quantum field - hence my focus on drama and dance. Really yoga is probably a very direct form of communication technology through positions of the body that can be combined with spoken mantras, but don't have to be. So when Bach keeps focusing on the brain, it sort of rubs me the wrong way a bit, because our "beingness" and energy centers that "sense" what we perceive" as reality is equally embedded in the fascia and all of that water and cytoskeletal microtubules pulsing around the biophotons. Who knows, maybe it's our gut bacteria running the reality show...I'm open to many possibilities.
Catch the last 15 minutes or so of that 4 hour video - you'll get a deeper view of how he's not really focussed on the brain ! What he explains about how we are experiencing an awakening dream, yet physics is not causal ...
It's really wonderful, for me, to hear a fully rational scientific mind come to this conclusion, that is usually poo woo'd by scientists are imaginary religious spiritual primitive magical thinking
The person who left the comment on your last video - her discussion of her theory of the toroidal cosmos with the 'dreamcatcher" model of the "big bang" black holes emanating into crystalline light is quite a wonderful accompaniment to your post. Thanks Kelfin.
hmmm, dunno what's going on with comments on these platforms - I left a few on your last video, but they don't seem to be there, but even on my own youtube videos, where it says there are comments, it's not showing then {to me}
and so I've no idea of - "discussion of her theory of the toroidal cosmos with the 'dreamcatcher" model of the "big bang" black holes emanating into crystalline light is quite a wonderful accompaniment to your post."
I can't see that comment anywhere, and there's no notification for it either
bit of a pity, cos I've been striving to make comments/interactions with you, in respect of the things you are discussing on your video lately - though i find it hard to push my self to both make the time, and to concentrate from such an amount of ideas to communicate
perhaps, we should/can communicate more directly by email ... and/or, I'm up for having some face to face video-chats if you'd like.
I feel that what I think, is so far-out there, cosmicly and from my life's experiences, that it's easily dis-counted or simply negated by the narrow-paths of most peoples reality-tunnels, and so, in this way, I can find it difficult to maintain consistency of effort in explaining, what for me, is outside of the Cave-tunnel analogies
It's coming together Kelfin. I see you and hear you. Please shoot me an email to timpsila@protonmail.com. I'll try to post a link to the video I meant below.
She has two videos that seem relevant and aligned with what you and Joseph have been unpacking. I am very intrigued by much of what Joscha Bach says, though Bach, unless I am misunderstanding him, seems to hold that it is all in the brain and what Joseph is saying is that primal consciousness is at the core. Joseph's thinking that fits with her model and your poetry above is that it is non-dual and recursive resonant light of which we are a part, cyclically. She has one video and then a second follow up both using the same dream catcher model.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMrQGUGzY8M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cnb6JTnuk8
I don't know, but my impression is that she is very grounded with good energy and had personally seen / experienced in mystic states this structure. I do believe people have the ability to do that even though at the moment I don't have that gift.
check this one too ... poetic rending of the seeming simulations
https://substack.com/home/post/p-150729117?source=queue
ahhh, Yeshe - i getcha!
this video sparked some interactions - and we tried to have a voice chat, but there's ver, very little signal where she lives -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7bH36M73RY
This video is a good example of how difficult it is, for me, to translate the figurative poetic insights into literal, linear, sequencial writings.
but I'm getting there, in some form.
My views, are grounded in my imagination.
I happen to have images in mind, which are like memories, of the birth of consciousness.
The first poem in the faerietale that I wrote, describes the birth of Light from Creatrix - and this idea flies in the face of all the Religions which see "God-Light" as Prime Creator, which, for me is as silly as Thinking that numbers begin with 1, negating and ignoring 0, as if No-Thing has no consciousness or meaning, no Agency, and no imaginition.
For me, the realm of Spirits is all very real, conceptually - I find it hard to imagine how people generally, can't "see" the invisible, and act as if the invisible is not present, denying the very idea of souls, even though these same people may "believe" in souls.
Joscha Bach, far from seeing consciousness, and all, as being in the brain, sees things very clearly, in terms of philosophy, that this physical world is simulated in the brain - sub he sees there being "spirits" {as in animism, from before the enlightenment-model of the world focused entirely on the physics} which hold the intelligence which implements {makes real, embodies} the forms - of flowers, plants, animals, humans, landscapes, mountains, and minerals etc
These "spirits", we can now describe, more accurately, as doing what software does, holding the blue-print which enacts what the code invokes.
you gotta get your head around this guy !
I know of no other who is like him, for his ability to explain his own unique view of things, from such a multitude of disaplines that he has studied.
I only came across a video of him back in early december '24, in a rather nice interview - but he also has videos where he straight-forward presents his own mind-model of the attempts of science to make sense of "life", where he is true to the initial ideas and expectations of what computer's would be able to do, given time, that he had as a child.
He's a wealth of unexpected unique-views, on such a wide range of previous dogmas - for example, there a couple of interviews, where he's asked to explain his idea of what the 7 days of creation Story is actually about - which apart from my own re-imaginings of that, what he describes is such a blast of fresh air, into those most-stuck-shut libraries of Big-Bang Bull manure ... ;)
I'd like to give links, timestamped to the specific bits that would convey the core insights, but, I've been listening to a lot of him, alongside Michael Levin, whom I also hadn't heard of til early December, as well as making sense of my own revelations, and the kinds of algorithmic reflections that my screen keeps suggesting -
Bach explains how we project this "reality tunnel", individually, acting "as if" we were "real" individual persons, self-identified, perceiving ourselves as being perceiving - and he explains it better than I can, though within the relatively narrow scope of science, through his knowledges of computation, biology and physics, as well as how his personality processes information in a quite unique manner and grammer.
I've been listening to this, today - I've copied the link at a good point in the video, that skips some chat, but gives a good introduction to his ability to communicate, with such patience, with people who are somewhat stuck in anti-tech, and psycho-spiritual-magical thinking
https://youtu.be/PkkN4bJN2pg?t=2427
skip ahead 2 hours, to here - to save some time - https://youtu.be/PkkN4bJN2pg?t=10870
I feel like I am getting a better handle on it having read more of Elmer Green's writings about meditative states and accessing the higher self.
https://www.elmergreenfoundation.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/OZB-Part-3-Final.pdf
https://wrenchinthegears.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/Ozawkie-Book-of-the-Dead-Elmer-Green.pdf
this video sparked some interactions - and we tried to have a voice chat, but there's very, very little signal where she lives -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7bH36M73RY
This video is a good example of how difficult it is, for me, to translate the figurative poetic insights into literal, linear, sequencial writings.
but I'm getting there, in some form.
My views, are grounded in my imagination.
I happen to have images in mind, which are like memories, of the birth of consciousness.
The first poem in the faerietale that I wrote, describes the birth of Light from Creatrix - and this idea flies in the face of all the Religions which see "God-Light" as Prime Creator, which, for me is as silly as Thinking that numbers begin with 1, negating and ignoring 0, as if No-Thing has no consciousness or meaning, no Agency, and no imaginition.
For me, the realm of Spirits is all very real, conceptually - I find it hard to imagine how people generally, can't "see" the invisible, and act as if the invisible is not present, denying the very idea of souls, even though these same people may "believe" in souls.
Joscha Bach, far from seeing consciousness, and all, as being in the brain, sees things very clearly, in terms of philosophy, that this physical world is simulated in the brain - sub he sees there being "spirits" {as in animism, from before the enlightenment-model of the world focused entirely on the physics} which hold the intelligence which implements {makes real, embodies} the forms - of flowers, plants, animals, humans, landscapes, mountains, and minerals etc
These "spirits", we can now describe, more accurately, as doing what software does, holding the blue-print which enacts what the code invokes.
you gotta get your head around this guy !
I know of no other who is like him, for his ability to explain his own unique view of things, from such a multitude of disaplines that he has studied.
I only came across a video of him back in early december '24, in a rather nice interview - but he also has videos where he straight-forward presents his own mind-model of the attempts of science to make sense of "life", where he is true to the initial ideas and expectations of what computer's would be able to do, given time, that he had as a child.
He's a wealth of unexpected unique-views, on such a wide range of previous dogmas - for example, there a couple of interviews, where he's asked to explain his idea of what the 7 days of creation Story is actually about - which apart from my own re-imaginings of that, what he describes is such a blast of fresh air, into those most-stuck-shut libraries of Big-Bang Bull manure ... ;)
I'd like to give links, timestamped to the specific bits that would convey the core insights, but, I've been listening to a lot of him, alongside Michael Levin, whom I also hadn't heard of til early December, as well as making sense of my own revelations, and the kinds of algorithmic reflections that my screen keeps suggesting -
Bach explains how we project this "reality tunnel", individually, acting "as if" we were "real" individual persons, self-identified, perceiving ourselves as being perceiving - and he explains it better than I can, though within the relatively narrow scope of science, through his knowledges of computation, biology and physics, as well as how his personality processes information in a quite unique manner and grammer.
I've been listening to this, today - I've copied the link at a good point in the video, that skips some chat, but gives a good introduction to his ability to communicate, with such patience, with people who are somewhat stuck in anti-tech, and psycho-spiritual-magical thinking
https://youtu.be/PkkN4bJN2pg?t=2427
skip ahead 2 hours, to here - to save some time - https://youtu.be/PkkN4bJN2pg?t=10870
I have been listening to Bach for some time. I agree with a lot of what he says, but if you listen closely to how he answers the first question in the talk you posted which was clearly asking if he felt that "consciousness emerges out of the material" or if it exists outside of the material (which is Joseph's theory regarding primal consciousness) - he doesn't really answer it, he just directs his comments back to the brain and the story. Again, I get that part, and I have talked quite a bit lately about stories and reality tunnels. As I understand it in the quantum, the role of the outside observer is key to wave collapse. Joseph posits that the ultimate outside observer is consciousness itself and that it is dynamic and recursive and pulses with feedback from all of us existing in this 3D version, which is so elegantly outlined by the Welsh woman in her dream catcher. Have a listen. I find it interesting that he dodges the question though in a charming way. https://youtu.be/WiZjWadqSUo?t=2923
Hehe, ;) he sure don't forget the question by the end.
But cool, I won't wax lyrical fan boy any more, seeing as you've already been listening to Bach before
I'll have a listen to your video tonight.
My other two cents is that while I appreciate the dives you do into the verbal spoken and written language aspect of reality crafting, I also feel very strongly that there are other forms of communication within the body that have their own languages that interface with the quantum field - hence my focus on drama and dance. Really yoga is probably a very direct form of communication technology through positions of the body that can be combined with spoken mantras, but don't have to be. So when Bach keeps focusing on the brain, it sort of rubs me the wrong way a bit, because our "beingness" and energy centers that "sense" what we perceive" as reality is equally embedded in the fascia and all of that water and cytoskeletal microtubules pulsing around the biophotons. Who knows, maybe it's our gut bacteria running the reality show...I'm open to many possibilities.
Yep. For sure.
Catch the last 15 minutes or so of that 4 hour video - you'll get a deeper view of how he's not really focussed on the brain ! What he explains about how we are experiencing an awakening dream, yet physics is not causal ...
It's really wonderful, for me, to hear a fully rational scientific mind come to this conclusion, that is usually poo woo'd by scientists are imaginary religious spiritual primitive magical thinking
If you're interested, here's where I have him in one of my maps for context on what ideas are floating around him in my head. You really need to look at it on a laptop size screen. Image here: https://wrenchinthegears.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/Bach-Map.jpg
Interactive here: https://embed.kumu.io/53264433387d7b1380033dd34ecae606#untitled-map?s=bm9kZS1VSk9pY0JYTA%3D%3D
Also, not sure if you are already aware, but he is from THAT Bach family.
Would love to chat. I recognize our doors in and paths through are different, but I do appreciate your perspectives.